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Well, is it known, is it a consistent song as you hear it all over?
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I mean does it have the same choral verses? Does it have 'Mule on the Mount' wherever you hear it?
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Where did you learn it this particular way?
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And this is one version you're going to sing?
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Alright.
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When you hear that sung, or nearly sung, about how many verses does a man know? He doesn't know as many as you do.
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Is one of these continuous?
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[inaudible]
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What's your name, please?
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Where do you come from?
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Where? What part of South Georgia?
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And how old are you?
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And what are you going to tell us or?
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How long ago?
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A short, a short while back.
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I mean, how did it, it happened long ago . . . what do you mean by that?
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Well, how did it go? I mean how did it --
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Uh-huh
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The negro told it to him when? I mean did he ever tell you that?
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I mean the negro had just told him the story?
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I see. And you don't have any name for it? Is that right?
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Just, okay, [laughing] go ahead .
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Well, let's start off with just one. That's the easiest way.
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Alright. Well, can you tell it or are you going to tell it or read it?
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Alright. Go ahead.
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Now look, suppose you don't read it from there and you just tell me it as a story. Go ahead. You can do it.
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Alright. Go ahead.
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Go ahead.
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I think it's better if you explain just how the cards, which way the cards get out or how people are standing there before you go on.
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Well, what does he do? Is the dealer holding the deck of cards?
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Alright.
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He just turns over . . .
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What, is it sung before the respectable ladies?
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I thought you heard it from women?
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Go ahead.
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Is there more to it?
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I think that's a very valuable contribution to scientific recording.
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Alright.
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Well, what type of song is it?
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How do they play it? Would you tell us very quickly?
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Was it, is it solo dancing?
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Well, what kind of group is it?
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Where did you get it
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Can you tell me, do you know how old a Blues it is? And how you happened to learn it?
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Who did you hear it from and when?
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You said you learned it in a crowd. How do you learn most of your songs?
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Well how about those that you have in your books and publish in the journals?
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You say that was uh. . . when was that sung?
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Alright.
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Where did you pick up the way you sing it?
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Just play it for me in ballad.
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Your name, age?
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And where were you brought up?
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Uh, huh, What do you mean 'voice'? Singing?
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Uh-huh, Alright. But you were brought up, most of your life, you spent right around here?
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Alright, now you'll tell the story. Apparently the interest in the story is just to have you talk naturally and at the same time, we'll have the story. So, would you try --
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Dr. Corse would you please explain why we asked to have this record made?
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Dr. Corse will you please introduce the speaker?
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Can you state your name, your age, and your occupation?
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And, uh, you are also a preacher, aren't you, sir? What congregation?
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Now, uh, this isn't part of your usual, as a missionary Baptist, does your church approve of singing?
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You're going to help us out with these, however?
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Now you have one, you have that holler, that uh?
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What, would you explain something about how it was used and when or something like that?
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Go ahead. Tell me something about it.
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Let me interrupt you here. Now that, that, what would you call that?
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Suppose you give the effect of actually being out on the farm?
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No, no there's another one without words.
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How would it sound, suppose someone had just haerd it, what would they hear?
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Where would the two of them be?
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Would they be near each other? Or? Or?
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Would you do it again? Was it the same effect between a quarter mile [inaudible] do a quarter mile.
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Are there more verses to that?
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Will you sing that, will you repeat the point [inaudible]
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Now, Those last directions, were they taught, is that what he called out for them to do?
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What do they do on the song part, I mean.
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They'd be dancing.
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I see. The last part was giving directions. The rest of the time they were dancing.
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What kind of dancing were they doing?
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Go ahead.
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Is that you as a kid? You learned it as a boy?
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How old are you?
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And where were you brought up?
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And what is it, tell us about what you are going to sing?
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You did? Well, woud you start in with?
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When you were small did you play it with a guitar.
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You're playing it with a guitar since then. Why are you singing it with a guitar? Can you sing it without?
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Well, would you try it without?
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Try it without.
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That's alright. Don't worry about it. Go ahead.
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And that's one you used to, you used to play games to that?
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Explain about that.
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Well, where was this? Where would you be? You wouldn't be doing it in the church.
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Just playing.
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Uh-huh
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And where were you brought up?
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And, uh, what are you going to [inaudible]
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And what was it called?
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Alright. Sing.
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How did they play that?
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Well now, how do you, was there somebody [inaudible].
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Could you pat the way they did? Take it over again and do the patting.
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Alright
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Oh, I see, well sing that and don't do your hands [Inaudible].
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Now, what kind of motion would they do?
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[Inaudible] Just sitting down is alright. Well no, I want to get it close to you. I'm going to put it around here. Now, you just face in that direction. Talk right out. [Adjusts the microphone].
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And how old are you?
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Tell us about this game. Where you learned it.
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Well, what, how did it go on? What else happened? What happened in the game?
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As if they were flying like a turkey? How was it played and how did they start off play
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Now you'll have to talk a little bit louder now on the next game.
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Alright. How does it go?
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And where were you brought up?
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Where did you learn this particular song?
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How did you learn it?
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What is this one called?
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I like that. Alright. Let's hear it.
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What would they sing it for?
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What kind of work were they doing?
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And these were the mule-skinners who were doing the singing? And what do they do? Sing the song while they were [inaudible]
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And what is the name of this song?
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Now how did you happen to learn it?
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While they were driving spikes. Could you mark off how the hammers would be coming down? Just where they'd be coming, hitting against this.
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Yeah, that would be good.
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[Banging] Alright. Can you, You can double-drive as long as you don't double-drive on the microphone. Alright. That's fine. Now, uh, and, This is 'John' -- you were telling me that this 'John Henry' wasn't sung the same way always? I mean, they wouldn't begin --
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Well now tell me, uh, but did they always have the same tune to it?
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